Reds at Dodgers, 6:10 p.m.
Dee Gordon, SS
Luis Cruz, 3B
Bobby Abreu, LF
James Loney, 1B
Adam Kennedy, 2B
Scott Van Slyke, RF
Elian Herrera, CF
Matt Treanor, C
Aaron Harang, P
Though he is not in today’s starting lineup, Mark Ellis has been activated, completing a rather remarkable recovery from the leg injury he suffered May 18. Andre Ethier went on the disabled list and will be eligible to return after next week’s All-Star Game.
Todd Coffey has probably pitched his last game as a Dodger – he has a damaged ulnar collateral ligament in his right elbow and will have Tommy John surgery that will sideline him for approximately a year. The Dodgers will no doubt pay $300,000 to buy out Coffey’s $2.5 million option for 2013.
Late Tuesday, the Dodgers signed second-round draft choice Steven Rodriguez, a left-handed reliever from Florida. Rodriguez has been pegged by Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com as one of two 2012 major-league draft picks closest to the majors, with speculation he could be in the bigs as soon as late this season.
Howard Kulzer
Does anyone know if Uribe has a buy out option of his three year contract?
Jon Weisman
Option years are years tacked onto a contract. You never hear about players signing “a three-year contract” where the third year is an option. You might hear about players signing “a three-year contract” with a fourth year that is an option.
Uribe is owed $7 million in 2013 plus a final payment of $1 million in 2014.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/?page_id=127
Howard Kulzer
Thank you very much!
Jon Weisman
Chad Billingsley, for example, has a three-year deal with a fourth-year option.
3 years/$35M (2012-14), plus 2015 club option:
2012:$9M, 2013:$11M, 2014:$12M, 2015:$14M club option ($3M buyout)
veryolddodgerfan
So I got this from Phil Gurnee. He said if he was the Padres he’d ask the Dodgers (for Chase H) for EO, Webster, Joc P, Landry. Deal or no deal?
underdog
I’m loathe to give up Joc, personally, would maybe give up the rest for Headley, throw in someone else other than Joc. He’s a single A prospect but I just feel he’s really talented, fear losing him to a rival.
Anonymous
No deal. That’s a major-league starter plus three top prospects, in exchange for a league-average infielder. No way in hell. Now, if the Phillies wanted those four for Cole Hamels, and Hamels could be talked into a long-term contract extension as part of the deal, I might give it serious consideration, despite the high price. Same for Greinke.
Anonymous
Now, Headley’s overrated, but of course you do the deal if the price is merely one top 100 prospect whose stock is sinking by the day and three fringe pseudo-prospects for a cost-controlled season and a half of an above average major leaguer at a position of need.
Anonymous
So the DL move is actually a good thing. But after the AS break two moves will have to be made right?
Jon Weisman
Three counting Guerra.
Anonymous
Things could change between now and then, but as of right now, I’m not sure who would get sent back down. Van Slyke is an obvious choice when Kemp and Ethier come back, and probably Cruz. Normally you would send down a reliever (Tolleson, obviously) when another returns, but that would leave us with only a six-man pen, and I’m not sure we would do that. So Herrera would be the most likely third man out as of right now. Unless someone wises up and DFA’s Kennedy or Uribe, but there’s been no indication yet that their time has run out. Much to our chagrin.
Anonymous
Keeping Kennedy over Herrera, especially considering his versatility around the diamond, his speed, and his ability to hit from both sides of the plate, would be sheer lunacy.
Anonymous
I don’t disagree. I’m just saying what’s likely, not what makes sense. ;)
Anonymous
nsx, I think Tiensy meant Uribe as the player who can actually field a position. Thus, I was surprised to see you agree.
Anonymous
How is it lunacy to send down a guy who can’t hit or field over another guy who can’t hit, but can actually field one position?
Anonymous
Carlos Lee to Miami. So much for his ranch.
underdog
Yeah, guess he didn’t have much choice for that one? Florida is also a big cattle ranching state, after Texas. Florida needed first base upgrade as much as the Dodgers did. Anyway, that’s fine, we keep a prospect.
Anonymous
IIRC, Lee had rights of refusing a trade to 15 of the MLB teams. It’s a safe bet that Miami was part of the other 14, in which case he indeed had no choice. He probably wanted to stay in Houston, but Houston wanted to get something for him before his contract expires at the end of the year.
Anonymous
Possibly the others were joking. You are correct in your safe bet, nsx
Anonymous
Florida would be one of last choices for a place to live, but they do have one of the country’s finest satirical novelists in Carl Hiaasen.
Anonymous
My favorite author!!!
Paul
He was simply being polite.
Not really a hard decision make, otherwise.
underdog
Yeah, because SoCal doesn’t have any appealing beaches or scenery or ladies or… I’m guessing this wasn’t about beaches.
Anonymous
Guessing it was more to do with the AAA lineup that is starting tonight’s game.
Paul
Appealing beaches? Read up there mate:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/03/fashion/03beaches.html?_r=1
http://www.broowaha.com/articles/733/a-fecal-matter-la-beaches-closed-again-due-to-sewage-spills
By the way, not limited to Santa Monica Bay:
http://sciencedude.ocregister.com/files/2010/08/sewagespill10yearg0830.jpg
And, here, two more for you:
http://www.smgov.net/Departments/OSE/progressReport/EnviroPubHealth.aspx
http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2002/fs155-02/
Shame really, since me and some friends once actually spent two days going from Wil Rodgers to Palos Verdes. And note from both pieces the report of toxic waste, and that’s why the warning re eating fish, since unlike the E. Coli that gets in the ocean water via the raw sewage, the toxins tend to linger rather a while longer (as noted, bind with the sediment) and are ingested and absorbed by the fish.
Lastly, if you encounter a burrowing marine animals, say thanks:
Most likely, geologic events and storms,
or more commonly, burrowing marine animals, have reworked the sediment to bury
the contaminants deeper, which makes the contaminants less likely to enter the
marine food chain.
underdog
Having been a resident of SoCal and NorCal all my life as well as an environmentalist, I get it, I know it, I understand it. You’re preaching to the choir. There are some ecological trouble spots in many urban beaches, no doubt. And none of this has anything to do with Carlos Lee, does it? As WBB points out, it was more about state taxes as well as desire to cattle ranch. Next.
Anonymous
Lee was unwilling to pay California state income tax rates for the privilege of living here.
underdog
July 13 is gonna be a happy day for Dodger fans if all stays on track. :) (Day before I return from backpacking trip. Look forward to that weekend’s games.) Wish Ethier could’ve played in Arizona given he’s done so well there in the past but more important is being set for rest of season and not pushing it.
Anonymous
Where are you going backpacking?
underdog
The Sierras, near Yosemite, not too, too far away from civilization this time (was further in the wilderness last time) but far enough to enjoy it. I need some forced time away from the grid. ;) But will still bring my transistor radio so I can secretly try to pick up the Dodgers radio late at night and see what’s happening.
Anonymous
Where specfically? The east side, around Mammoth?
underdog
No, Western side, can’t remember the name but it’s near the Minarets? Not far from Yosemite on that side.
KT
My daughter and I are attending the Saturday the 14th game for our 1st and only game of the season at DS. I definitely had to get good seats section 40ABL row 2 seats 1 & 2…The VIP seats along 3rd base line
Anonymous
>> Rodriguez has been pegged by Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com as one of two 2012 major-league draft picks closest to the majors, with speculation he could be in the bigs as soon as late this season.
While the linked article does indeed say that Mayo has him second closest to the majors, there is no indication there that he could be in the bigs this season. Logan White is quoted as saying he could be up “toward the end of NEXT year” (emphasis added).
Anonymous
I remember being shocked to see predictions that the player could be in MLB this season at the tme of the draft. Of course, he is getting a late start.
Anonymous
Time for Big Game James to get his game on. This lineup needs a major leauger some where amongst the AAA’s.
Anonymous
>> This lineup needs a major leauger some where amongst the AAA’s.
Maybe, but I’m not sure Loney qualifies.
Anonymous
Right now there are 158 position players who qualify for stats this season. If Loney had enough at bats to qualify, his OPS would rank 145. Which isn’t very good for anyone, let alone someone at a power position.
KT
Good inning Aaron
For those of you who are Laker fans. the Lakers has agreed with the Suns on a sign and trade.
The person we get for 2 # 1 picks (2013, 2015) and two # 2 picks (2013. 2014) is Steve Nash
Anonymous
Nash for 4 useless picks, not bad.
KT
especially if the picks are the last one in each round ^_^
Anonymous
Haha yeah, great job by Kupchak.
KT
Good hit Dee way to start it off
Come on Cruz
Anonymous
Conventional double for Dee.
KT
Good hit Luis!!!
KT
Come on Bobby
underdog
Great start for Dee!
Anonymous
Why no bunt?
Anonymous
Threat of bunt made that successful.
KT
Nice hit Bobby
Come on James…Drive them in
KT
BGJ is hot!!!
Come on Adam
KT
Come on WP
Anonymous
Vin better get his Leake stories in quick.
KT
^_^
KT
Wild throw will due
KT
Come on Scott
KT
he doesn’t look like he has much confidence
Anonymous
Doesn’t look like he has much to be confident about.
veryolddodgerfan
i didn’t want to be negative, but, yeah
KT
come on Elian drive adam in
KT
Come on Matt ducks on the pond
Anonymous
Our Matty for the moment.
KT
I’m trying to hold out on the matty call because the other one is at the station
KT
too bad Matt’s an old catcher…almost anyone else woulld’ve beat that one out
Anonymous
i’m allowed to listen to my ipod at work, theoretically can a pitcher listed to his ipod “at work” you know, while pitching?
veryolddodgerfan
Hey KT. i think you should have the technical ability to throw anyone out of here tonight who brings the negative waves. like the 113 guy or whatever last night. you got the win. you should get to toss some negative folks. everyone in the lineup is a major leaguer – well, svs, well – ok anyway. be in charge KT.
KT
I know most people who come to post here don’t usually have a negative attitude
The past few weeks even tested my patience…It was very hard being positive at times
I feel now the team has turned the corner because they see the regulars getting ready to come back and the “weight” has been lifted.
I see a good series in AZ the busting out of the gates after ASG starting with the Padres
veryolddodgerfan
and i don’t want to hear anyone knocking THE BIG SHOW either
KT
Another good inning Aaron
Anonymous
Wow! mlb drawstring bag nite!
veryolddodgerfan
That was a double?
Anonymous
Cruz’ cousin is the official scorer tonight.
KT
no he just has pictures on the scorer like Uribe and Velez had on our manager
Anonymous
No other way to score it.
KT
Good hit Luis
Anonymous
hopefully at some point in little Dee’s career he’ll be able to handle the bat like Brett Butler (also have his patience) peak years for Brett Butler.
WAR – 6.6 in 1988 with Giants (boo!)
OBP – 413 with Dodgers ’92
KT
that would be fantastic…loved the way Brett hit
Anonymous
Whoa, we need to trade for this Leake guy like right now and stick him in at LF.
Anonymous
When Mark Ellis returns to the lineup, we won’t see any more plays like that one by Kennedy.
Anonymous
We need to keep him around in case we have another losing streak.
“In case of emergency, bat this man 5th.”
Anonymous
even Votto’s outs are loud & hard.
Anonymous
Votto is a beast, I remember that one atbat he had earlier where he stayed in the batters box and psyched out the pitcher.
KT
Way to hold them Aaron
KT
Good hit Adam
Nice play by Bruce
Anonymous
somebody must a sign there right fellas?
KT
thought so too
KT
Adam was actually safe on the late high tag and probably missed sign by SVS
Anonymous
Ok. Happy 4th Y’all!
…
4th of July + Designated BBQer + Can’t take your eyes off the game = burned burgers! d:-/
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Now, let’s get back to this one….
veryolddodgerfan
now stay chill Jonny, Kt is launching negative people tonight.
Anonymous
Sarcasm? … that’s always on the menu.
Negativity? … not a chance tonight VODF. :-)
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BTW, I appreciate the “heads’ up” …
KT
48 pitches after 4 for Aaron…good job
peter drysdale
Whose idea was it to start early? Was watching the Rangers vs Sox and saw the score on the crawl. BTW, speaking of that game, wouldn’t it be nice to have Beltre & Konerko on the team?
Anonymous
I am just happy that we are not wearing red caps.
KT
they went to the new design with just the letter(s) being red, white and blue
peter drysdale
It annoys me when people wear pink (or other odd colored) hats or shirts. Wear something that’s the real team colors
veryolddodgerfan
The Big Show is Dealing!
veryolddodgerfan
oops
veryolddodgerfan
jinxed the Big Show. hope he doesn’t come after me
Anonymous
Just to get my feet wet here….
…
1. Loved those highlights they just showed of Fernando…. I think those are the same glasses he wore in the footage… :-) Amazing… You’d never see a player caught dead in regular glasses these days… Remember Kent Tekulve? Tim Foli?
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2. Can it be said that Todd Coffey had a “Cup of Coffee?” with the Dodgers?
(due to his limited number of appearances and contrubutions) … seems like a great guy.
peter drysdale
Definitely sux to have to undergo a second Tommy John surgery. One must be bad enough.
Anonymous
Yeah. Pete.
…
I’m sure he’s a great guy, and full of fun… from all I’ve read about him.
He’s had his injury issues in the past… And, hey…. that’s his career.
So, I’m totally bummed for him as well.
Anonymous
Mesoraco is starting to get on my nerves (Ruiz-like).
KT
I hate Chooch
Anonymous
How can one not be just a touch negative when you see one of your guys “dogging it” to 1B?
….
Hopper deep beyond 1B… took Votto another 3 – 4 steps to gather himself… throws the ball high and off line to a P who isn’t even at the bag yet… who then need to make the catch and the tag 2 seperate actions….. And, they get him? … Come on James…
Anonymous
I mean, even as a lefty, you’re a step or two closer to 1B to start with.
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Inexcusable. IMHO.
veryolddodgerfan
JONNY WE TALKED ABOUT THIS
Anonymous
(smiling) ……..
Anonymous
Hats off to Harang for a great pitching man.
Anonymous
Great game by the Harangatang, much better than the start in Oakland.
Anonymous
I was there in Oakland, and haven’t been able to for get it.
KT
Nice inning Belli!!
Anonymous
Belisario is a Marcel Of Joy when he’s on. Man, did you guys see that last pitch! i dare you not to be amazed!!
KT
Way to get on Dee
Come on Luis insurance run
Anonymous
i hope he steels 3rd base…
Anonymous
Baserunners and infielders have been swatting at gnats (rather than Gnats) the entire evening.
Anonymous
oh no, hope it’s nothing bad…
KT
so you were the one egging him onto 3rd…Way To Go Blue (joking)
KT
dee was actually out…he stumbled taking off from second
He hurt his throwing hand
Hand and wrist got bent back
Anonymous
looks like little Dee jammed his thumb from what i can tell.
KT
and wrist…It got completely bent back
Anonymous
And he should have been called out.
KT
definitely out
peter drysdale
Good Lord, how many injuries can one team get in a season? Frustrating.
Anonymous
I may or may not have mentioned this before….but, how about some DT T-SHIRTS?
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Long-sleeve…short-sleeve…no-sleeve…cut-offs….the whole line. :-)
Anonymous
no kidding, i’d be all for it… to this day when ever i wear my long sleeve white DT shirt people tell me it’s really nice where did i buy it…
Anonymous
they should ban that head first slide!!!
KT
Good job Mark
Anonymous
Mark Ellis is game rusty, hey, at least we have runners on 3rd on 2nd now.
veryolddodgerfan
not rusty. he did just what he was suppose to do. stay out of dp. keep defense occupied so runners get to 2nd and 3rd
KT
it was perfectly “played” by him
Anonymous
i’ll do the robot if Kennedy hits a granny.
KT
Good SAC Adam
Anonymous
4-1, c’mon Kenley close this one out
Anonymous
as my Dad use too say (RIP) sierra lo con brocha de oro! with this part of the lineup it will be tough though.
Anonymous
Ahhhh Deeee….. Anybody know how bad it is/looked?
KT
didn’t look pretty…won’t know until post game
KT
1 more Kenley
Anonymous
3-1 in July. Screw you June!
KT
1st place again Baby!!!
Anonymous
This time, first place should be for the rest of the season.
KT
^_^
Anonymous
Happy 4th of July everybody!
Anonymous
First place baby!!!
veryolddodgerfan
KT another good job. Keep an eye on Jonny though he has a little trouble keeping it positive. WBB hope you feel better.
Hopefully all the DEE haters can stop hating for awhile now.
Anonymous
Luis Cruz before tonight: .200/.167/.400/.567
Luis Cruz after tonight: .375/.400/.625/1.025
peter drysdale
WOOHOO! back to back wins for first time in a long time
Anonymous
Since June 9-10.
Anonymous
Happy happy happy!
Happy 4th everyone :)
Anonymous
More first-place fives all around!
Happy 4th. Think Blue, Go America.
Anonymous
The Snakes are trailing 4-3 top ‘o 8th… There going to be tuff man.
KT
I see 4-4 end of 7
Anonymous
yeah, i just saw that, i guess i didn’t refresh my browser…
Let’s go Pads!
underdog
And if they lose it they’ll have lost 3 straight to Padres. They are still going to be tough, and hungry, but at least Dodgers will still be ahead of them no matter what happens in that series.
Anonymous
Two-run home run for Madres in top of eighth.
KT
Dee injury update: Nothing broken just dislocated
underdog
Argh, can’t we have one night where one injured player returns and another one doesn’t go down injured in their place? :( Dislocated thumb for Gordon. Better than broken or something worse, though, I guess.
Meanwhile, yay, Dodgers at least. For winning a series again! Happy days.
And Matt Kemp with a line drive single just drove in another run. 2 more hits for him tonight. Now batting .571 as a Quake! ;)
Are we suuuuuuure we can’t call him up this weekend?
Anonymous
Belisario leads the NL in ERA now, with 0.99
Anonymous
So the three division leading teams in the NL now are the Dodgers and two perennial doormats. :)
KT
7-4 Padres
KT
8-4 Padres
KT
8-6 now Padres
KT
How sweep it is..Padres win 8-6
KT
Dodgers 10-0 when Adam Kennedy bats 5th
Anonymous
Just got home – got to see most of the game at my Sisters’ place – love the pitching performances we’ve been getting – feels great to take a series finally. The Boys have turned the corner – 1st place to stay! Hope everyone had a great 4th. Bring on the dirty Snakes.
Jon Weisman
NPUT
Anonymous
Been at training at work all day, tuned in to great news (hope Dee is ok). A few more wins before the break and then watch out for us after the break when we get Kemp and Eithier back. No stopping us!